Creative practices create value for their participants and their territories in a wide variety of ways, many, perhaps most, are not financial. This presentation will draw on three studies of different creative networks that enact value systems which enable then to become sustainable. In each case the values of gifting, collaboration, sharing and support are key to achieving the aims of the network, including innovation, business and community development. These creative networks can also produce emergent values for the milieu that they help to constitute, including education and training, community cohesion, and regeneration. These observations might suggest that the idea of ‘independence’ has always been about multiple value systems that resist its reduction to merely artisanal modes of production.